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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually Anna, this is very much a part of what I&#039;m talking about in this blog. Thank you for your contribution.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Anna, this is very much a part of what I&#39;m talking about in this blog. Thank you for your contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Redfin put up a cool (human pleasing) neighborhood search  and that, combined with the blog in which we blog people write local interest blurbs, helps. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Agreed though that much innovation yets needs to be done on humanizing the real estate search. This would not be so much a programming thing as an agent thing: Be honest. Do not include unlivable crawl space in the square footage. Don&#039;t make an ugly yard sound like the SF Botanical Gardens. Don&#039;t call an obviously scary neighborhood &quot;hip.&quot; Don&#039;t take pictures ONLY of built-ins to avid showing water dmage in the kitchen. These ploys only waste time on both the searcher and the searchees part. This is maybe not exactly what you mean with this blog, but I do think accurate information would do much to inprove them humanity of the online search.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-A&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS: MORE snaps for the Morrisey ref. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redfin put up a cool (human pleasing) neighborhood search  and that, combined with the blog in which we blog people write local interest blurbs, helps. </p>
<p>Agreed though that much innovation yets needs to be done on humanizing the real estate search. This would not be so much a programming thing as an agent thing: Be honest. Do not include unlivable crawl space in the square footage. Don&#39;t make an ugly yard sound like the SF Botanical Gardens. Don&#39;t call an obviously scary neighborhood &quot;hip.&quot; Don&#39;t take pictures ONLY of built-ins to avid showing water dmage in the kitchen. These ploys only waste time on both the searcher and the searchees part. This is maybe not exactly what you mean with this blog, but I do think accurate information would do much to inprove them humanity of the online search.</p>
<p>-A</p>
<p>PS: MORE snaps for the Morrisey ref. </p>
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		<title>By: Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank LL0SA- Broker FranklyRealty.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Davison,&lt;br /&gt;
We have a long way to go, but over on our MLS site, we have added 30,000 buyer agent photo albums. Many of them were photoless listings, until a buyer agent grabbed a camera and decided to share.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frank&lt;br /&gt;
FranklyMLS.com&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Davison,<br />
We have a long way to go, but over on our MLS site, we have added 30,000 buyer agent photo albums. Many of them were photoless listings, until a buyer agent grabbed a camera and decided to share.</p>
<p>Frank<br />
FranklyMLS.com</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;As for what humans DO, your points are valid -- but what we&#039;ve found is that people care about many different things -- and not everyone would DO what you would do.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course. I merely used myself as one example. Some people might tell an agent they love to entertain. Others may say they want some distance between themselves and their neighbors. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My point is simply this - whatever people say, I am convinced that a good agent, when  they list a home, knows to some degree what kind of person the home will appeal too. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In that regard, offering the agent a way to better describe the home and tag key words based upon their core knowledge will create a database of &quot;other&quot; terms that could either turn into new fields to search by or better yet, factor well into a natural language search paradigm. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My entire point, my goal, my wish... is to create a way for consumers to search naturally and derive close to the same 6 or 12 results they would had they gone to an agent rather than the 1200 or 12,000 or 260 results they currently get. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And furthermore, I wonder given the activity derived from today&#039;s less-than-perfect search results, what kind of activity could a more humanized, natural search derive. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;As for what humans DO, your points are valid &#8212; but what we&#39;ve found is that people care about many different things &#8212; and not everyone would DO what you would do.&quot; </p>
<p>Of course. I merely used myself as one example. Some people might tell an agent they love to entertain. Others may say they want some distance between themselves and their neighbors. </p>
<p>My point is simply this &#8211; whatever people say, I am convinced that a good agent, when  they list a home, knows to some degree what kind of person the home will appeal too. </p>
<p>In that regard, offering the agent a way to better describe the home and tag key words based upon their core knowledge will create a database of &quot;other&quot; terms that could either turn into new fields to search by or better yet, factor well into a natural language search paradigm. </p>
<p>My entire point, my goal, my wish&#8230; is to create a way for consumers to search naturally and derive close to the same 6 or 12 results they would had they gone to an agent rather than the 1200 or 12,000 or 260 results they currently get. </p>
<p>And furthermore, I wonder given the activity derived from today&#39;s less-than-perfect search results, what kind of activity could a more humanized, natural search derive. </p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marc-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Great points. I work in the industry and believe it or not, we do ponder this very thing. I would personally agree that many humans do NOT think about a new home as you listed. (Although many can figure out how to fit their criteria to the data that&#039;s available.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for what humans DO, your points are valid -- but what we&#039;ve found is that people care about many different things -- and not everyone would DO what you would do. I point this out for two reasons:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Some of your &quot;DO&quot; items rated quite low in our studies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) We&#039;re on the same page that search needs to change and get orders of magnitude better. But to fulfill your vision requires making home search work for all individuals, not for all humans.   ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc-</p>
<p>Great points. I work in the industry and believe it or not, we do ponder this very thing. I would personally agree that many humans do NOT think about a new home as you listed. (Although many can figure out how to fit their criteria to the data that&#39;s available.)</p>
<p>As for what humans DO, your points are valid &#8212; but what we&#39;ve found is that people care about many different things &#8212; and not everyone would DO what you would do. I point this out for two reasons:</p>
<p>1) Some of your &quot;DO&quot; items rated quite low in our studies.</p>
<p>2) We&#39;re on the same page that search needs to change and get orders of magnitude better. But to fulfill your vision requires making home search work for all individuals, not for all humans.   <img src='http://www.1000wattconsulting.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Joe, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t have the 7 figures but it appears a few folks who see the vision do. I may have started a wildfire. &lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I don&#39;t have the 7 figures but it appears a few folks who see the vision do. I may have started a wildfire. </p>
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		<title>By: jf.sellsius</title>
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		<dc:creator>jf.sellsius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know what you mean and it can be done.  If you had 7 figures I could show you.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean and it can be done.  If you had 7 figures I could show you.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not sure how I can make my point or the practicality of it any clearer without actually sitting down and programming the darn idea. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Map based searching with little blue markers that are supposed to be homes are not favored among users. It&#039;s simply where our industry decided to take it, probably because it was the in thing and seemed practical. Once Trulia did it, everyone followed. And that&#039;s what we have today - slightly better versions of the same thing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think there&#039;s something better. My vision of that is a program that allows the user to write a paragraph into a search field and based on that information, better results would appear based upon how agents write and tag their description of the property. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, I can see how allowing user generated comments about the home to also factor into the search with as much gusto as the standard info. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Look, I may be totally on crack here and map searching by zip, city, state, bed, bath, price is the pinnacle of what technology can create. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I&#039;m holding out because after all the searching someone does, they end up talking to an agent who tells them why half the homes they saved aren&#039;t good because they don&#039;t meet the needs of the client - needs that come across during a conversation. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And that&#039;s what I&#039;m seeking - a way to create that conversation between agent and buyer online. The benefit for the agent and buyer in my mind see unlimited. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, </p>
<p>Not sure how I can make my point or the practicality of it any clearer without actually sitting down and programming the darn idea. </p>
<p>Map based searching with little blue markers that are supposed to be homes are not favored among users. It&#39;s simply where our industry decided to take it, probably because it was the in thing and seemed practical. Once Trulia did it, everyone followed. And that&#39;s what we have today &#8211; slightly better versions of the same thing. </p>
<p>I think there&#39;s something better. My vision of that is a program that allows the user to write a paragraph into a search field and based on that information, better results would appear based upon how agents write and tag their description of the property. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I can see how allowing user generated comments about the home to also factor into the search with as much gusto as the standard info. </p>
<p>Look, I may be totally on crack here and map searching by zip, city, state, bed, bath, price is the pinnacle of what technology can create. </p>
<p>But I&#39;m holding out because after all the searching someone does, they end up talking to an agent who tells them why half the homes they saved aren&#39;t good because they don&#39;t meet the needs of the client &#8211; needs that come across during a conversation. </p>
<p>And that&#39;s what I&#39;m seeking &#8211; a way to create that conversation between agent and buyer online. The benefit for the agent and buyer in my mind see unlimited. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Meckey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Meckey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marc - I wasn&#039;t sure how much room I had here to comment...so I posted a my thoughts about this on my blog...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webdigsblog.com/?p=245&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.webdigsblog.com/?p=245&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with your point of view, but don&#039;t really see how it is practical.  I guess I should also note that I am a broker trying to make it in a very tough market, with limited resources.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any suggestions you may have are certainly welcome&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tom&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I wasn&#39;t sure how much room I had here to comment&#8230;so I posted a my thoughts about this on my blog&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webdigsblog.com/?p=245" rel="nofollow">http://www.webdigsblog.com/?p=245</a></p>
<p>I agree with your point of view, but don&#39;t really see how it is practical.  I guess I should also note that I am a broker trying to make it in a very tough market, with limited resources.</p>
<p>Any suggestions you may have are certainly welcome</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Humphrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Humphrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What I have found to be most effective and what my clients are looking for (I&#039;m a broker so no flames) is a home in an area that meets their needs. It usually starts out with a school or description such as west of hwy 73 and north of the 5 fwy and such. I&#039;ve found that something like hotpads.com works for me as a start since I can search using a map, but then you get into the problem of lack of photos, poor descriptions or sign-up so I can market to you. In this day of high gas prices, I supply my clients with as much information as possible to qualify or dis-qualify a home. I really don&#039;t want to drive around. I have also found that given certain demographics, clients come to me from Craigslist, etc. and not the traditional Realtor.com. What I like about Craigslist is the posting of a very nice flyer with links to more in-depth descriptions. An earlier post showed a FSBO blog with information that could not be expressed in many sites today. I agree with the natural search engine but you are still constrained by what the agent puts there. Maybe something as simple as www.franklymls.com is what people are looking for. If the liting agent is not willing to post photos and comments, buyer&#039;s agents who preview can give a heads-up on whether it&#039;s worth viewing and priced right. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I have found to be most effective and what my clients are looking for (I&#39;m a broker so no flames) is a home in an area that meets their needs. It usually starts out with a school or description such as west of hwy 73 and north of the 5 fwy and such. I&#39;ve found that something like hotpads.com works for me as a start since I can search using a map, but then you get into the problem of lack of photos, poor descriptions or sign-up so I can market to you. In this day of high gas prices, I supply my clients with as much information as possible to qualify or dis-qualify a home. I really don&#39;t want to drive around. I have also found that given certain demographics, clients come to me from Craigslist, etc. and not the traditional Realtor.com. What I like about Craigslist is the posting of a very nice flyer with links to more in-depth descriptions. An earlier post showed a FSBO blog with information that could not be expressed in many sites today. I agree with the natural search engine but you are still constrained by what the agent puts there. Maybe something as simple as <a href="http://www.franklymls.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.franklymls.com</a> is what people are looking for. If the liting agent is not willing to post photos and comments, buyer&#39;s agents who preview can give a heads-up on whether it&#39;s worth viewing and priced right. </p>
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